how far have we come? "bUt FrAnKs aRe bALaNceD"

TLDR: there is room for balancing without breaking the game. WTF does it take 18 months for the bottom tier civs to be balanced? WTF are vets so stupidly opposed to balance changes (namely porto and arguably burma)

how much we have gained in comparison to November patch :

Turks : Scout line) units gain +1 pierce armor.CA attack animation is fasterArtillery lost its insanely high stone costHC 75% accuracy up from 65%

Franks: berry harvesting nerfedUT nerfed (+200 w + 100g on chivalry) and age switched

yet veterans still used to complain that turks needed no buffs all of last year? how OP are turks now then? they should be ROFL stomping games with the amount of opposition players gave to buffs.. if somehow a frank v turk game was balanced since before all these huge changes, WTF kind of game do they have now? insta win for turks? #ohwait

turk winrate is as low as 40% v franks 1250-1650 elo (largest accurate pool).. 38% on 1650+

so do we think the latest buffs will actually help turks on arabia? probably by a small margin

point being that people oppose balance changes for the sake of it without actually realising there is a fair amount of room for changes