Civilization Match-up Discussion Round 2 Week 16: Chinese vs Vietnamese

We end our second round of discussions with the classic Le Loi match up!

Hello and welcome back for another Age of Empires 2 civilization match up discussion! This is a series where we discuss the various advantages, disadvantages, and quirks found within the numerous match ups of the game. The goal is to collectively gain a deeper understanding of how two civilizations interact with each other in a variety of different settings. Feel free to ask questions, pose strategies, or provide insight on how the two civilizations in question interact with each other on any map type and game mode. This is not limited to 1v1 either. Feel free to discuss how the civilizations compare in team games as well! So long as you are talking about how the two civilizations interact, anything is fair game! Last week we discussed the Aztecs vs Mayans, and next up is the Chinese vs Vietnamese!

Chinese: Archer Defensive civilization

• Start with +3 Villagers, but -200f, -50w
• Technologies cost -10%/-15%/-20% in Feudal, Castle, and Imperial Ages
• Town Centers support 10 population
• Demolition Ships have +50% hit points

• TEAM BONUS: Farms +45 food

• Unique Unit: Chu Ko Nu (Archer that fires multiple arrows per volley)

• Castle Age Unique Tech: Great Wall (Walls and Towers +30% hp)

• Imperial Age Unique Tech: Rocketry (Chu Ko Nu +2 attack, Scorpions +4 attack)

Vietnamese: Archer civilization

• Reveal enemy positions at the start of the game
• Archery Range units +10%/+15%/+20% in the Feudal, Castle, and Imperial Ages
• Conscription free

• TEAM BONUS: Imperial Skirmisher available to all teammates

• Unique Unit: Rattan Archer (Archer with very high pierce armor)

• Unique Unit: Imperial Skirmisher (Imperial Age upgrade for Elite Skirmishers)

• Castle Age Unique Tech: Chatras (Battle Elephants +50 hp)

• Imperial Age Unique Tech: Paper Money (Tribute 500 gold to yourself and all allies)

Below are some match up-specific talking points to get you all started. These are just to give people ideas, you do not need to address them specifically if you do not want to!

• So obviously the Chu Ko Nu is a very powerful archer unit and an excellent late game choice for the Chinese, but is it not viable to make them against the powerful anti-archer options of the Vietnamese?
• Is there any game mode that you feel that the Vietnamese are better than the Chinese? Because I can't think of any 11
• Are Battle Elephants a viable choice for the Vietnamese in this match up? They soak up arrow fire quite well, but are easily converted by Chinese monks (which only miss Block Printing).

Thank you as always for participating! This concludes our second round of civ match up discussions! Every civ has been featured twice so far. Next week we will begin round 3 of this series with the Malay vs Spanish. Hope to see you there! :)