Macedonian - too op!

I never played the RoR expansion a lot and only played as Carthaginian and Roman back in the day.

I bought DE yesterday, I started a 200 pop 4v4 RM with random civ against "Hard" AI and randomly got Macedonian and holy shit are they invincible IMO.

They have cataphracts, centurions with +5 pierce armor, heavy horse archers with, armored elephants for good measure. All non-ranged units have better LOS too. They also have cheaper siege, I don't know why you would want to make siege with such A+ units, but hey it's an option. Oh and did I mention they have balista towers too to help defend your base.

On top of all this I was against egyptian and babylon Hard AI who were doubling me, (actually I was being tripled a Minoan AI too at that time), and they brought their monks, when I was in the bronze age. I was scared shitless only to realize that their monks were only able to convert two unit out of my army. Pleasantly surprised, I went back to the tech tree and saw that they are 4X more resistant to conversions!

Needless to say, I steamrolled all the hard AIs with horse archer+phalanx+heavy cav (didn't have food to upgrade those units) combo, while surrounding my base with guard towers , which i was able to upgrade to balista towers in late game.

That got me thinking...If I ever play against a Macedonian player AI or human, how the hell can I beat their "comp.bow + cav + hoplite combo" in bronze age transitioning to "horse archer + heavy cav + phalanx" combo in iron age ?

I guess the only way would be to deny them gold very early on ? but then they could alway go mass towers and defend pretty well too.

I don't see any military counter unit strat against them ... thoughts ?

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